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Nofollow: Yahoo! Still Doesn’t Follow
Posted (Marc) in Link Building, SEO on November-3-2006

It’ll be nearly two years since Google, Yahoo!, MSN and a host of blog CMS providers got together to launch the nofollow initiative to combat comment spam.

From a link building point of view, I’ve always wondered how nofollow treated mass link building efforts like the ones we bloggers experience firsthand everyday. If the big 3 search engines say the nofollow tag is a step in the right direction, why is comment spamming and all its whitehat/grayhat variants still considered a valid link building tactic by some.

History of Nofollow

Here is SEW’s summary of how Google treats the nofollow tag:

If Google sees nofollow as part of a link, it will:

  1. NOT follow through to that page.
  2. NOT count the link in calculating PageRank link popularity scores.
  3. NOT count the anchor text in determining what terms the page being linked to is relevant for.

MSN behaves the same way:

Any link with this tag will indicate to a crawler it is not necessarily approved by this page and shouldn’t be followed nor contribute weight for ranking.

Yahoo! on the other hand has been “misbehaving”. As Remi van Beekum posted at the High Rankings forum last year, Yahoo! has taken a different route: it’s following and factoring nofollowed links in its ranking algorithm:

I recall Tim Mayer saying they will follow the nofollow links because most links that are not ‘trusted’ are actually valid links, at the SES in NY February/March. They just weight less than links without the nofollow tag.

With the two year anniversary of the nofollow initiative coming up in a few months, I decided to test that theory again via GlobeVisibility.com (nofollow) which I bought recently (and which Noel discovered today hehe). I bought the domain last 10/23/2006 and hosted the test page 6 days after. Nofollowed links were provided by Macalua.com (see footer). I wanted to keep the experiment running longer but the domain has been outed and I can’t keep people from linking to it anymore.

Here are the results of my experiment:

On Indexing

Google doesn’t follow through to the destination URL. Googlebot doesn’t visit and the URL isn’t indexed.

Google nofollow results

MSN doesn’t follow through to the destination URL. MSNBot doesn’t visit and the URL isn’t indexed.

MSN nofollow results

Yahoo! follows through to the destination URL. Yahoo! Slurp visited and indexed the URL.

Yahoo! nofollow results

Yahoo! Slurp visits

On Seeing Backlinks

Google and MSN don’t return nofollowed links when doing a link: or linkdomain: search. Yahoo! does.

On Ranking

As they don’t see other domains with the unique test keyword, Google and MSN only return pages on this blog.

Yahoo! seems to give weight to the anchor text of nofollowed links. Globevisibility.com, the target URL of the nofollowed link on Macalua.com is #1 in Yahoo!, beating this WebRank4 blog for the test keyword.

Hasty Conclusions

  1. Google and MSN follow nofollow, so comment spamming and all its white/gray variants don’t give any ranking/indexing boost to a site.
  2. Yahoo! doesn’t follow nofollow, so comment spamming and all its white/gray variants still give a ranking/indexing boost to a site.
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Comments:
Miguel A Paraz on November 3rd, 2006 at 1:25 AM #

I remembered Jeremy Zawodny had something to say about it, so I looked and found: Nofollow no good?.

marhgil on November 3rd, 2006 at 9:46 AM #

Ganun? So, ibig sabihin pala, ang comment kong ito ay makakatulong para at least, tumaas ang ranking ko sa Yahoo? Sisipagin tuloy akong magcomment sa mga blog dahil sa post na ito. Thanks for the tip! *grin*

noel on November 3rd, 2006 at 11:17 AM #

Hehehe..I was looking for a good domain to register for domain monetization and nakuha na pala. :-)

This experiment is great! Very informative.

Marc on November 3rd, 2006 at 12:24 PM #

marhgil, that would appear to be the case. Just don’t spam this blog :)

Noel, I’m not getting any substantial organic traffic off that keyword (globe visibility). Hirap i-monetize. I’m willing to sell it to the highest bidder though ;)

Miguel A Paraz on November 3rd, 2006 at 12:40 PM #

I could send you my [globe 3g] searchers. Then, nag Innove for a Visibility affiliate program!

Marc on November 3rd, 2006 at 12:44 PM #

Honga. I should just get a cut from Francis of The Hub sa podium for every online referral hehe :)

marhgil on November 3rd, 2006 at 1:40 PM #

sorry bossing! =)

j4s0n on November 3rd, 2006 at 7:24 PM #

Honestly, I’m a no Fan of nofollow. Specially on blog comments, comments are efforts, and somehow at least must be weighed in. First of all, Spams are webmaster’s responsibility really.

http://www.nonofollow.net/index.php?title=Main_Page

Andy Beard on November 4th, 2006 at 1:49 PM #

I just posted a question related to this over at Jeremy’s blog, and linked back.

Yahoo is the only search engine that shows Google linkblogs in search (the links to them, not the contents)

I love taking part in the conversation on blogs that don’t use nofollow, and avoid using it on every platform I can (nothing can be done about blogger unfortunately)

I am also putting together a fun blog with a heavily tagged index of other blogs that don’t use nofollow, so you can find related blog to join in and get some additional value.

It might create a spammer magnet, but spam controls handle that fairly well.

j4s0n on November 6th, 2006 at 12:48 AM #

Somehow blogs (eg wordpress) needs to have some option built-in on turning on/off nofollow. Built-in and not just a plugin. Should consider user preference first of all.

Scott Fish SEO on November 6th, 2006 at 8:10 AM #

I’ve never been a big fan of No-follow. Plain and simple, if the site isn’t one that you’d link to, then don’t link to them.

Andy Beard on November 7th, 2006 at 5:01 AM #

Scott have you ever read Revenge of the Mininet and the bonus Dynamic Linking material?

I am a big fan of nofollow, but not for its intended purpose.

Scott Fish SEO on November 7th, 2006 at 4:38 PM #

Actually I haven’t read it, sorry.

I’ll have to make a trip to book store ;)

Marc on November 7th, 2006 at 7:21 PM #

>> I’ve never been a big fan of No-follow. Plain and simple, if the site isn’t one that you’d link to, then don’t link to them.

Scott, I think that goes without saying, but I think nofollow was created is for user-generated content sections of sites, e.g. comments, forums, etc. where it would be just too unwieldy to moderate by hand so nofollow should have discouraged a lot of people.

The sad truth is eople are still link spamming because 1) Yahoo! doesn’t follow nofollow so there’s still link juice to pass and 2) there’ still a traffic incentive from direct clicks.

Even if Yahoo! started obeying nofollow, it would still be hard to discourage link spammers because of #2.

Marc on November 7th, 2006 at 7:22 PM #

Andy, that will be a spam magnet :)

Andy Beard on November 13th, 2006 at 12:59 AM #

@ Scott

I have links on my blog to where you can download it for free. I make absolutely no money from recommending it, and I am amazed anyone to do with SEO hasn’t read it.

@ Marc

I did mention it could be a spam magnet. What I have also noticed is the more spam you get, the more effectively spam tools handle it.

Swimming pool equipment on January 4th, 2007 at 7:19 AM #

it is a interesting post for yahoo still not follow “nofollow” , actually i noticed Yahoo has adopted this “nofollow” feature in its Yahoo Answer (answers.yahoo.com) , and what ever links post there has been ignore by Yahoo spider itself. (you can try it by yourself) So it seems Yahoo has adopted some degree of “nofollow” feature for its own benefits.

atlantic city on February 14th, 2007 at 11:50 PM #

I guess there has to be something to keep the search engines from having different results. Maybe this is yahoo’s way of varying their searchs… probably not the best way, but still their way.

Rich on May 25th, 2007 at 6:45 AM #

I recently setup Hackertrap script, which, among other things, blocks bad bots (those that don’t follow the rules). Much to my surprise, Yahoo Slurp follows “nofollow” links, even though their FAQ says that it doesn’t.

seo dubai on October 18th, 2007 at 8:21 PM #

Honestly, ngayun ko lang nalaman na gantu pala ung no-follow:)

James on November 7th, 2007 at 3:16 AM #

Just came accross this post after I noticed Yahoo was registering links that are nofollow with the Inlinks function. Stupid bloody yahoo

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